SCOOP: A repurposed Navy contract is funneling tens of billions into a "ghost network" of detention camps that can materialize anywhere in America overnight.
Got it. Guessing Van Hollen is the right person to bring it up to since he was already livid at the purchase in Hagerstown and misusing Navy funds should be a big deal in MD.
I also gave his office a call and sent a link to this article through his website before I even saw this comment. He’s absolutely the one to send it to. April McClain Delaney as well Hagerstown is her district.
Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
Large vacant
Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
JOE TUZARA, M.D. @TUZARAPOST
NOV 13
By Ava Grace
November 14, 2025
* The Trump administration plans to convert large, vacant warehouses – some originally built for corporations like Amazon – into “mega detention centers” for immigrants facing deportation. These facilities could be up to 3.8 million square feet, dwarfing existing ICE detention centers.
* ICE is targeting warehouses near major airports in the southern U.S. to streamline deportations, minimizing transit times and centralizing operations for efficiency.
* Unlike traditional private or state-run detention centers, ICE would directly purchase and operate these facilities, consolidating federal oversight and reducing reliance on contractors.
* "The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record "$76.5 billion" allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
BOTTOMLINE
The Trump administration, through U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), is reportedly in early-stage discussions to purchase and retrofit large warehouses—originally designed for e-commerce giants like Amazon—into expansive “mega-detention centers” for holding immigrants amid planned mass deportations.
These facilities would be significantly larger than existing ICE detention sites, averaging more than twice the size, to accommodate a rapid expansion of detention capacity.
This aligns with broader immigration enforcement strategies under the new administration, including prior considerations of involving the U.S. Navy for faster construction of detention networks.
A departure from traditional models
This initiative marks a stark departure from the traditional model of immigrant detention.
Historically, ICE has relied heavily on a network of facilities owned and operated by private prison corporations or state governments, which are then contracted to hold detainees.
Under this new plan, ICE would purchase the warehouses outright, owning the properties directly.
Furthermore, the agency intends to staff these mega-centers with its own federal employees, rather than contractors or military personnel, consolidating direct federal control over the entire detention process.
The financial muscle for this ambitious expansion would come from the massive budget reconciliation package President Donald Trump signed earlier this year, a bill he famously dubbed the “One Big Beautiful Bill.”
This allocation is part of a broader, historic funding injection for ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
The move occurs against a backdrop of White House frustration.
Despite campaign promises of mass deportations, ICE has struggled to meet daily arrest quotas and fill hiring goals, leading to the replacement of some senior leaders.
The warehouse plan is the latest in a series of unconventional and often contentious ideas the administration has pursued to secure more detention space.
A departure from traditional models
This initiative marks a stark departure from the traditional model of immigrant detention.
Historically, ICE has relied heavily on a network of facilities owned and operated by private prison corporations or state governments, which are then contracted to hold detainees.
Under this new plan, ICE would purchase the warehouses outright, owning the properties directly.
Furthermore, the agency intends to staff these mega-centers with its own federal employees, rather than contractors or military personnel, consolidating direct federal control over the entire detention process.
The financial muscle for this ambitious expansion would come from the massive budget reconciliation package President Donald Trump signed earlier this year, a bill he famously dubbed the “One Big Beautiful Bill.”
This allocation is part of a broader, historic funding injection for ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
The move occurs against a backdrop of White House frustration.
Despite campaign promises of mass deportations, ICE has struggled to meet daily arrest quotas and fill hiring goals, leading to the replacement of some senior leaders.
The warehouse plan is the latest in a series of unconventional and often contentious ideas the administration has pursued to secure more detention space.
Previous efforts have included exploring the use of tents at the U.S. Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba – a plan that ultimately did not materialize – and establishing large-scale tent facilities at Fort Bliss, Texas.
The persistent search for new capacity highlights the administration’s unwavering commitment to a policy of maximum enforcement, regardless of the practical or ethical hurdles.
As the administration moves forward with this plan, the nation must confront the reality of what these vast warehouses represent – a monumental and potentially irreversible hardening of the American border, both physically and philosophically.
Watch this report below about ICE agents raiding an Airbnb full of migrants.
Deep Staters Join Illegal Aliens at ICE’s “Detention Alley”
Exclusive: ICE Busts Illegal Immigrants Posing as ICE Agents in Chicago
President Trump’s Alligator Alcatraz tour in Ochopee, Florida, is complete
The vertical consolidation of the plan is most disturbing, apart from the sneaky handed financing designed to keep Congress out of the loop. The vertical consolidation not only suggests permanent plans for horror, but suggests that as far as the planners were concerned, any elections that might yield a new regime opposed to horror were not a concern. It was going to come out at some point. They do not truly deeply care what opinions of millions and millions of voters might be. I would give my face and teeth to smash such a plan, and I fear now that such may be. I had a nightmare about the death of my daughter in a place of horror years ago and it has never left me.
Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law
It appalled me when Presidents Obama and Biden both failed to make an end of the cruel precedent of the Gitmo prison. Leaving that door open. I curse that folly.
I politely disagree. Politicians are in fact human beings with freedom to choose.
Lowering expectations has been a hallmark of defeat for the last half century. I don't recommend it.
George Carlin was a GREAT humanitarian but he is not here to help now. The shit has shifted and he would have some new things to say.
I feared the retention of the Gitmo Prison prior to 2008. Before Trump, there was Pat Buchanan, a surly poser in prefiguration of Trump, of what we actually got in the end.
ICE can be empowered. Attempts to affect it can be fought off. But those who created it and promote cannot defend it. It pulls the reputation of the nation wholesale and so many ordinary people are against it. It underlines all our flaws and actually serves the purpose of enforcing legal, social, racial, political, sexual, and economic inequalities. It is a tool of abuse and will have to be crushed while it is still small. It will infect every federal institution with an antipublic bias. It is Right Wing malice embodied. Nothing can justify it.
Abolish ICE- NOW - They have been proven to be a lawless entity working far beyond their mandate , terrorizing, beating, maiming and killing people with zero accountability. Imprisoning people illegally in for profit provisional prisons with no regard to due process. Building further private prisons with navy money to imprison yet more people without due process and in poor conditions is profoundly dangerous and un American-
“DHS is basically shutdown-proof from a funding perspective,” which is an evil genie that will not soon be wrestled back into its bottle. And why we must all be talking about tearing this institution down to its rotten, white supremacist foundations, preferably before the current ethic-cleansing campaign of the US federal government turns into a modern genocide (if it hasn't already).
Nowadays, the US has that huge PRIVATE Prison Industrial Complex, which is a modern form of slavery..
For example, the "UNICOR" Corp., being part of the Military Industrial Complex, has more than 150 private prison factories. In 2021, the inmates' hourly wage there was between $0.23 and $1.15, while the minimal wage of a "free" American was $7.25. How? Thanks to that nice little exclusion in the 13th Amendment that basically equates prisoners and slaves..
***
The largest private prison companies in the U.S. are GEO Group and CoreCivic. These two companies collectively manage over half of the private prison contracts in the United States with combined revenues of $3.5 billion in 2015.
Any chance you know how many states use private, both within state and ship outside? I can look but haven't in a few years so I don't know where that sits now. Non immigration, just state.
It is a disgusting thought, but I am uncertain, from my privileged viewpoint within an industry, whether human flesh is sufficiently kept out of the supply chain of U.S. food commerce. Administrative guardrails of many kinds have been weakened with incredible haste.
That will be a perfect place to incarcerate all of Trumps goons from JAN 6th. And perfect for Trump and his cabinet! Just perfect and yes you will get rotten food , water from toilets and beg for toilet paper. But unlike ICE detention centers no body will rape , beat you unconscious because you will need to be able to walk in those chains to the Hague! Of course normal people wont even want to touch you.
The April 5th mass protests, that are planned, are a long way off. Things are happening too quickly that establish this Fascist regime. We need to get out now! A lot of people are, but a lot more need to. We can’t just have protests when it is convenient. And all those No King’s people need to put their money where their mouths are. Literally. Boycott these fascist oligarchs! No Amazon! No Home Depot! No Target! And we need to build on those important boycotts. Hit them where it hurts them. All they care about is money. Show them that we have the power. They can no longer use our money to oppress us, to exploit us. Because we have the power if we unite! And we need to do more than react, we need to build a New Country out of what will be the ashes of these fascists. We need to build a new, true Democracy! Something this country has never known. A democracy for all the people! Black people, Brown people, poor people, middle class people, undocumented people. In order to do that we need to take down the oligarchs that oppress us by dividing us. Because The People, United, will Never Be Defeated! An old but true Slogan. All you Fascists bound to lose!!!
While we see the benefit of an economic stall, I haven't seen cultural shifts be super effective without substitution. I see that as an issue worldwide over a variety of issues. I think if we can say to people don't shop at Amazon but shop at X etc we would have a better chance of success. If we had a list of 2 companies in each category to suggest instead, I just think we may get more buy in.
You're right that it needs to be framed as a reinvestment rather than a disinvestment, but we run into a swapping evils problem if these lists are zoomed out to the national level.
As in electoralism, telling people to choose X over Y but then later inevitably having to confront all the other horrible things Y is involved in leads to popular burnout and a general sense of futility.
There are some national-level cooperatives and the like that are broadly available (Bob's Red Mill and King Arthur for bakery goods, Costco for groceries, etc), but generally it's probably more useful to have lists that are regionally and locally taylored by the orgs on the ground in a given metropolitan area - they'll be able to provide options that actually benefit local communities and are realistically accessible for a given community.
These may just need to stay categorical, but that also opens up the conversation to build a meaningful vision for an alternative beyond lesser evils ("don't go to Starbucks, go to your local coffeeshop; pull out of Bank of America, use your local credit union; here are union shops and coops in your area that could use your support; here's how these are better options for you and your neighbors now and in the future").
As you know, we're not going to buy our way out of colonial capitalism, and we shouldn't feed the illusion that we can. If we're offering alternatives, it should be framed in the context of a systemic shift they represent.
Agree. We also need to make it real clear to Y the reason for the shift and that they are expected to back that reason. Yes I know it is far from perfect.
Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
JOE TUZARA, M.D. @TUZARAPOST
NOV 13
By Ava Grace
November 14, 2025
The Trump administration plans to convert large, vacant warehouses – some originally built for corporations like Amazon – into “mega detention centers” for immigrants facing deportation. These facilities could be up to 3.8 million square feet, dwarfing existing ICE detention centers.
ICE is targeting warehouses near major airports in the southern U.S. to streamline deportations, minimizing transit times and centralizing operations for efficiency.
Unlike traditional private or state-run detention centers, ICE would directly purchase and operate these facilities, consolidating federal oversight and reducing reliance on contractors.
"The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record "$76.5 billion" allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
BOTTOMLINE
The Trump administration, through U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), is reportedly in early-stage discussions to purchase and retrofit large warehouses—originally designed for e-commerce giants like Amazon—into expansive “mega-detention centers” for holding immigrants amid planned mass deportations.
These facilities would be significantly larger than existing ICE detention sites, averaging more than twice the size, to accommodate a rapid expansion of detention capacity.
By Ava Grace
November 14, 2025
The Trump administration plans to convert large, vacant warehouses – some originally built for corporations like Amazon – into “mega detention centers” for immigrants facing deportation. These facilities could be up to 3.8 million square feet, dwarfing existing ICE detention centers.
ICE is targeting warehouses near major airports in the southern U.S. to streamline deportations, minimizing transit times and centralizing operations for efficiency.
Unlike traditional private or state-run detention centers, ICE would directly purchase and operate these facilities, consolidating federal oversight and reducing reliance on contractors.
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record "$76.5 billion" allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
BOTTOMLINE
The Trump administration, through U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), is reportedly in early-stage discussions to purchase and retrofit large warehouses—originally designed for e-commerce giants like Amazon—into expansive “mega-detention centers” for holding immigrants amid planned mass deportations.
These facilities would be significantly larger than existing ICE detention sites, averaging more than twice the size, to accommodate a rapid expansion of detention capacity.
This aligns with broader immigration enforcement strategies under the new administration, including prior considerations of involving the U.S. Navy for faster construction of detention networks.
A departure from traditional models
This initiative marks a stark departure from the traditional model of immigrant detention.
Historically, ICE has relied heavily on a network of facilities owned and operated by private prison corporations or state governments, which are then contracted to hold detainees.
Under this new plan, ICE would purchase the warehouses outright, owning the properties directly.
Furthermore, the agency intends to staff these mega-centers with its own federal employees, rather than contractors or military personnel, consolidating direct federal control over the entire detention process.
The financial muscle for this ambitious expansion would come from the massive budget reconciliation package President Donald Trump signed earlier this year, a bill he famously dubbed the “One Big Beautiful Bill.”
This allocation is part of a broader, historic funding injection for ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
Can this WEXMAC thing be stopped in the DHS approps bill even though it’s DoD funding?
I imagine it can be restricted
Got it. Guessing Van Hollen is the right person to bring it up to since he was already livid at the purchase in Hagerstown and misusing Navy funds should be a big deal in MD.
Update:
I had MD state legislative leadership let Van Hollen know. I expect he’ll follow up.
ill look for him tomorrow
I also gave his office a call and sent a link to this article through his website before I even saw this comment. He’s absolutely the one to send it to. April McClain Delaney as well Hagerstown is her district.
@Pablo Manriquez
Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
Large vacant
Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
JOE TUZARA, M.D. @TUZARAPOST
NOV 13
By Ava Grace
November 14, 2025
* The Trump administration plans to convert large, vacant warehouses – some originally built for corporations like Amazon – into “mega detention centers” for immigrants facing deportation. These facilities could be up to 3.8 million square feet, dwarfing existing ICE detention centers.
* ICE is targeting warehouses near major airports in the southern U.S. to streamline deportations, minimizing transit times and centralizing operations for efficiency.
* Unlike traditional private or state-run detention centers, ICE would directly purchase and operate these facilities, consolidating federal oversight and reducing reliance on contractors.
* "The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record "$76.5 billion" allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
BOTTOMLINE
The Trump administration, through U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), is reportedly in early-stage discussions to purchase and retrofit large warehouses—originally designed for e-commerce giants like Amazon—into expansive “mega-detention centers” for holding immigrants amid planned mass deportations.
These facilities would be significantly larger than existing ICE detention sites, averaging more than twice the size, to accommodate a rapid expansion of detention capacity.
This aligns with broader immigration enforcement strategies under the new administration, including prior considerations of involving the U.S. Navy for faster construction of detention networks.
A departure from traditional models
This initiative marks a stark departure from the traditional model of immigrant detention.
Historically, ICE has relied heavily on a network of facilities owned and operated by private prison corporations or state governments, which are then contracted to hold detainees.
Under this new plan, ICE would purchase the warehouses outright, owning the properties directly.
Furthermore, the agency intends to staff these mega-centers with its own federal employees, rather than contractors or military personnel, consolidating direct federal control over the entire detention process.
The financial muscle for this ambitious expansion would come from the massive budget reconciliation package President Donald Trump signed earlier this year, a bill he famously dubbed the “One Big Beautiful Bill.”
This allocation is part of a broader, historic funding injection for ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
The move occurs against a backdrop of White House frustration.
Despite campaign promises of mass deportations, ICE has struggled to meet daily arrest quotas and fill hiring goals, leading to the replacement of some senior leaders.
The warehouse plan is the latest in a series of unconventional and often contentious ideas the administration has pursued to secure more detention space.
A departure from traditional models
This initiative marks a stark departure from the traditional model of immigrant detention.
Historically, ICE has relied heavily on a network of facilities owned and operated by private prison corporations or state governments, which are then contracted to hold detainees.
Under this new plan, ICE would purchase the warehouses outright, owning the properties directly.
Furthermore, the agency intends to staff these mega-centers with its own federal employees, rather than contractors or military personnel, consolidating direct federal control over the entire detention process.
The financial muscle for this ambitious expansion would come from the massive budget reconciliation package President Donald Trump signed earlier this year, a bill he famously dubbed the “One Big Beautiful Bill.”
This allocation is part of a broader, historic funding injection for ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
The move occurs against a backdrop of White House frustration.
Despite campaign promises of mass deportations, ICE has struggled to meet daily arrest quotas and fill hiring goals, leading to the replacement of some senior leaders.
The warehouse plan is the latest in a series of unconventional and often contentious ideas the administration has pursued to secure more detention space.
Previous efforts have included exploring the use of tents at the U.S. Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba – a plan that ultimately did not materialize – and establishing large-scale tent facilities at Fort Bliss, Texas.
The persistent search for new capacity highlights the administration’s unwavering commitment to a policy of maximum enforcement, regardless of the practical or ethical hurdles.
As the administration moves forward with this plan, the nation must confront the reality of what these vast warehouses represent – a monumental and potentially irreversible hardening of the American border, both physically and philosophically.
Watch this report below about ICE agents raiding an Airbnb full of migrants.
Deep Staters Join Illegal Aliens at ICE’s “Detention Alley”
Exclusive: ICE Busts Illegal Immigrants Posing as ICE Agents in Chicago
President Trump’s Alligator Alcatraz tour in Ochopee, Florida, is complete
Deep Staters to be Detained at Alligator Alcatraz
The vertical consolidation of the plan is most disturbing, apart from the sneaky handed financing designed to keep Congress out of the loop. The vertical consolidation not only suggests permanent plans for horror, but suggests that as far as the planners were concerned, any elections that might yield a new regime opposed to horror were not a concern. It was going to come out at some point. They do not truly deeply care what opinions of millions and millions of voters might be. I would give my face and teeth to smash such a plan, and I fear now that such may be. I had a nightmare about the death of my daughter in a place of horror years ago and it has never left me.
😡👹
@Cheryl Faye
Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law
enforcement agency.
@Rhambus
And you can bet another billionaire who helped Trump get elected is making a mint building those too.
https://open.substack.com/pub/tuzarapostj/p/trump-administration-mulls-turning?r=9vojh&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay
@Cheryl Faye
https://open.substack.com/pub/tuzarapostj/p/trump-administration-mulls-turning?r=9vojh&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay
Notice how ppl keep mentioning "gulag" all the time, while GITMO is STILL functional..?
This is exactly how Propaganda works..
youtu.be/NhPOrkGbpxk?t=393
It appalled me when Presidents Obama and Biden both failed to make an end of the cruel precedent of the Gitmo prison. Leaving that door open. I curse that folly.
I wonder how many times It will take for ppl to realize it's not about POTUS , it's about the system. ANY POTUS is just a figurehead.
Never forget that politicians are just puppets. They don't really make any decisions, just rubber stamp and sell them to the masses
***
G. Carlin explains:
youtube.com/shorts/CaHJRJZAjQM
I politely disagree. Politicians are in fact human beings with freedom to choose.
Lowering expectations has been a hallmark of defeat for the last half century. I don't recommend it.
George Carlin was a GREAT humanitarian but he is not here to help now. The shit has shifted and he would have some new things to say.
I feared the retention of the Gitmo Prison prior to 2008. Before Trump, there was Pat Buchanan, a surly poser in prefiguration of Trump, of what we actually got in the end.
Well.. US presidents come and go, but GITMO/FED/FBI/CIA/NSA/NED/DHS/ICE and the neocons' Wolfowitz Doctrine remain in the Deep Swamp..
So much for the "turnover of power"…
***
The last POTUS who actually tried to "choose" was JFK, and you prolly know what happened to him..
ICE can be empowered. Attempts to affect it can be fought off. But those who created it and promote cannot defend it. It pulls the reputation of the nation wholesale and so many ordinary people are against it. It underlines all our flaws and actually serves the purpose of enforcing legal, social, racial, political, sexual, and economic inequalities. It is a tool of abuse and will have to be crushed while it is still small. It will infect every federal institution with an antipublic bias. It is Right Wing malice embodied. Nothing can justify it.
I love Obama a d like Biden but you are right on that. I felt sorry for those who were tortured.
I'm sure they really appreciate that.
Abolish ICE- NOW - They have been proven to be a lawless entity working far beyond their mandate , terrorizing, beating, maiming and killing people with zero accountability. Imprisoning people illegally in for profit provisional prisons with no regard to due process. Building further private prisons with navy money to imprison yet more people without due process and in poor conditions is profoundly dangerous and un American-
We are way past the abolish ice point
“DHS is basically shutdown-proof from a funding perspective,” which is an evil genie that will not soon be wrestled back into its bottle. And why we must all be talking about tearing this institution down to its rotten, white supremacist foundations, preferably before the current ethic-cleansing campaign of the US federal government turns into a modern genocide (if it hasn't already).
Nowadays, the US has that huge PRIVATE Prison Industrial Complex, which is a modern form of slavery..
For example, the "UNICOR" Corp., being part of the Military Industrial Complex, has more than 150 private prison factories. In 2021, the inmates' hourly wage there was between $0.23 and $1.15, while the minimal wage of a "free" American was $7.25. How? Thanks to that nice little exclusion in the 13th Amendment that basically equates prisoners and slaves..
***
The largest private prison companies in the U.S. are GEO Group and CoreCivic. These two companies collectively manage over half of the private prison contracts in the United States with combined revenues of $3.5 billion in 2015.
***
Any chance you know how many states use private, both within state and ship outside? I can look but haven't in a few years so I don't know where that sits now. Non immigration, just state.
It is a disgusting thought, but I am uncertain, from my privileged viewpoint within an industry, whether human flesh is sufficiently kept out of the supply chain of U.S. food commerce. Administrative guardrails of many kinds have been weakened with incredible haste.
Watch the movie, 'Soylent Green'.
We can’t let these camps be built/stand. By any means possible.
Excellent and impressive work, Pablo, as usual!
Thanks, Jim!!
When is this nightmare going to end?
When we end it!
It's clear nobody else is going to do it for us.
Yeah.
Senator Kennedy should give up his seat because he is number one to be in jail for helping Trump with the Jan 6th. insurrection.
That will be a perfect place to incarcerate all of Trumps goons from JAN 6th. And perfect for Trump and his cabinet! Just perfect and yes you will get rotten food , water from toilets and beg for toilet paper. But unlike ICE detention centers no body will rape , beat you unconscious because you will need to be able to walk in those chains to the Hague! Of course normal people wont even want to touch you.
This we cannot work with. It must stop.
I guarantee you, I'm sitting in the middle of it
Hello fellow Texan.
Nope. Not Texan... Californian.
The April 5th mass protests, that are planned, are a long way off. Things are happening too quickly that establish this Fascist regime. We need to get out now! A lot of people are, but a lot more need to. We can’t just have protests when it is convenient. And all those No King’s people need to put their money where their mouths are. Literally. Boycott these fascist oligarchs! No Amazon! No Home Depot! No Target! And we need to build on those important boycotts. Hit them where it hurts them. All they care about is money. Show them that we have the power. They can no longer use our money to oppress us, to exploit us. Because we have the power if we unite! And we need to do more than react, we need to build a New Country out of what will be the ashes of these fascists. We need to build a new, true Democracy! Something this country has never known. A democracy for all the people! Black people, Brown people, poor people, middle class people, undocumented people. In order to do that we need to take down the oligarchs that oppress us by dividing us. Because The People, United, will Never Be Defeated! An old but true Slogan. All you Fascists bound to lose!!!
While we see the benefit of an economic stall, I haven't seen cultural shifts be super effective without substitution. I see that as an issue worldwide over a variety of issues. I think if we can say to people don't shop at Amazon but shop at X etc we would have a better chance of success. If we had a list of 2 companies in each category to suggest instead, I just think we may get more buy in.
You're right that it needs to be framed as a reinvestment rather than a disinvestment, but we run into a swapping evils problem if these lists are zoomed out to the national level.
As in electoralism, telling people to choose X over Y but then later inevitably having to confront all the other horrible things Y is involved in leads to popular burnout and a general sense of futility.
There are some national-level cooperatives and the like that are broadly available (Bob's Red Mill and King Arthur for bakery goods, Costco for groceries, etc), but generally it's probably more useful to have lists that are regionally and locally taylored by the orgs on the ground in a given metropolitan area - they'll be able to provide options that actually benefit local communities and are realistically accessible for a given community.
These may just need to stay categorical, but that also opens up the conversation to build a meaningful vision for an alternative beyond lesser evils ("don't go to Starbucks, go to your local coffeeshop; pull out of Bank of America, use your local credit union; here are union shops and coops in your area that could use your support; here's how these are better options for you and your neighbors now and in the future").
As you know, we're not going to buy our way out of colonial capitalism, and we shouldn't feed the illusion that we can. If we're offering alternatives, it should be framed in the context of a systemic shift they represent.
Agree. We also need to make it real clear to Y the reason for the shift and that they are expected to back that reason. Yes I know it is far from perfect.
@Pablo Manríquez
Large vacant
Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
JOE TUZARA, M.D. @TUZARAPOST
NOV 13
By Ava Grace
November 14, 2025
The Trump administration plans to convert large, vacant warehouses – some originally built for corporations like Amazon – into “mega detention centers” for immigrants facing deportation. These facilities could be up to 3.8 million square feet, dwarfing existing ICE detention centers.
ICE is targeting warehouses near major airports in the southern U.S. to streamline deportations, minimizing transit times and centralizing operations for efficiency.
Unlike traditional private or state-run detention centers, ICE would directly purchase and operate these facilities, consolidating federal oversight and reducing reliance on contractors.
"The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record "$76.5 billion" allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
BOTTOMLINE
The Trump administration, through U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), is reportedly in early-stage discussions to purchase and retrofit large warehouses—originally designed for e-commerce giants like Amazon—into expansive “mega-detention centers” for holding immigrants amid planned mass deportations.
These facilities would be significantly larger than existing ICE detention sites, averaging more than twice the size, to accommodate a rapid expansion of detention capacity.
By Ava Grace
November 14, 2025
The Trump administration plans to convert large, vacant warehouses – some originally built for corporations like Amazon – into “mega detention centers” for immigrants facing deportation. These facilities could be up to 3.8 million square feet, dwarfing existing ICE detention centers.
ICE is targeting warehouses near major airports in the southern U.S. to streamline deportations, minimizing transit times and centralizing operations for efficiency.
Unlike traditional private or state-run detention centers, ICE would directly purchase and operate these facilities, consolidating federal oversight and reducing reliance on contractors.
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record "$76.5 billion" allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
BOTTOMLINE
The Trump administration, through U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), is reportedly in early-stage discussions to purchase and retrofit large warehouses—originally designed for e-commerce giants like Amazon—into expansive “mega-detention centers” for holding immigrants amid planned mass deportations.
These facilities would be significantly larger than existing ICE detention sites, averaging more than twice the size, to accommodate a rapid expansion of detention capacity.
This aligns with broader immigration enforcement strategies under the new administration, including prior considerations of involving the U.S. Navy for faster construction of detention networks.
A departure from traditional models
This initiative marks a stark departure from the traditional model of immigrant detention.
Historically, ICE has relied heavily on a network of facilities owned and operated by private prison corporations or state governments, which are then contracted to hold detainees.
Under this new plan, ICE would purchase the warehouses outright, owning the properties directly.
Furthermore, the agency intends to staff these mega-centers with its own federal employees, rather than contractors or military personnel, consolidating direct federal control over the entire detention process.
The financial muscle for this ambitious expansion would come from the massive budget reconciliation package President Donald Trump signed earlier this year, a bill he famously dubbed the “One Big Beautiful Bill.”
This allocation is part of a broader, historic funding injection for ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
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Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
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Trump administration mulls turning vacant warehouses into mega-detention centers
The expansion is financed by President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill”, part of a record $76.5 billion allocation to ICE, transforming it into the largest federal law enforcement agency.
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